about those temporary workers…

crossposted from right truth:

Immigrants not renewing their temporary work permits – holding out for amnesty

It is being reported today that some immigrants are not renewing their temporary work permits because some have the mistaken belief that they will soon be on the path to becoming U.S. citizens, via the Senate’s amnesty program.

Tens of thousands of Honduran and Nicaraguan immigrants nationwide risk losing their legal status in the United States today because they have not renewed their temporary work permits …

With the deadline approaching by the end of today, about half the eligible applicants have yet to apply for renewal. They could lose their jobs and face deportation, jeopardizing the livelihoods of thousands of relatives here and in their homelands who depend on their salaries. …

About 75,000 Hondurans and 4,000 Nicaraguans got the permits, issued under the Temporary Protected Status (TPS) Program, after Hurricane Mitch in 1998. The permits, if renewed, would allow them to live and work legally in the United States for another year. …

In recent weeks, senior Honduran and Nicaraguan diplomats have traveled to cities with large populations from their countries, giving radio, television and newspaper interviews urging people to renew. In Honduras, the government has called upon citizens, through commercials and posters, to urge their relatives in the United States to renew their permits… source

Thank you Senators for allowing thes people and others to “think they will soon benefit from immigration reforms, including a guest worker program and other measures that could pave the way for citizenship”.

**This was a production of The Coalition Against Illegal Immigration (CAII). If you would like to participate, please go to the above link to learn more. Afterwards, email the coalition and let me know at what level you would like to participate.

***NOTE: this is just more evidence that the senate bill needs to be shot down in the house. if this is what is happening before there is an official bill that expands a temporary worker program, i don’t even want to think about what would happen after such a bill was approved. hopefully we won’t have to find out.

those who do not learn from history…

you know the rest. amnesty doesn’t work. we tried this already in 1986. the INS(immigration and naturalization service) released a study on this back in 2000. guess what they found out? here are a few highlights (courtesy of the center for immigration studies).

Amnesties clearly do not solve the problem of illegal immigration. About 2.7 million people received lawful permanent residence (“green cards”) in the late 1980s and early 1990s as a result of the amnesties contained in the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986. But these new INS figures show that by the beginning of 1997 those former illegal aliens had been entirely replaced by new illegal aliens, and that the unauthorized population again stood at more than 5 million, just as before the amnesty.

In fact, the new INS estimates show that the 1986 amnesty almost certainly increased illegal immigration, as the relatives of newly legalized illegals came to the United States to join their family members. The flow of illegals grew dramatically during the years of the amnesty to more than 800,000 a year, before dropping back down to around 500,000 a year.

shouldn’t we take this into consideration when thinking about the consequences of a second amnesty for even more illegals? we shouldn’t reward them or the employers that hire them for breaking the law. we should care more about protecting the rights and the jobs of american citizens than we do about taking care of those unfortunate souls who are citizens of a corrupt socialist government. border enforcement should be a priority, but we also need to destroy incentives for employers and illegals to break the law. that’s the only way to significantly reduce illegal immigration. that’s where the senate bill fails to deliver the goods.

here are some important facts to know(from the heritage study):

  • 85% of the current illegal immigrant population will be granted amnesty under the senate bill…which adds up to 10 MILLION PEOPLE.
  • there are NO numeric limits on the number of illegal immigrants, spouses, and dependents receiving LPR(legal permanent resident) status.

you can dispute heritage’s actual numbers(and the white house already has). however, even if those numbers are wildly overestimated, it’s alarming that there are no caps on the number of illegals that would be able to come in to our country under provisions of that senate bill.

here’s what i would like to see:

  • enforcement with teeth
  • fines for employers that would take a significant bite out of their bottom line, which will increase on each violation knowingly committed
  • deportation for those who commit crimes in addition to the one committed when sneaking into the country
  • frequent periodic checks on employers suspected of hiring illegals, and especially those who have already been caught doing so.
  • strengthen existing laws where necessary to decrease the possibility that there will be repeat offenders
  • increased funding for border security so that those charged with enforcing our borders will have the resources they need
  • no citizenship for felons, drug smugglers, or those with 3+ minor infractions

these are some common sense suggestions that i think could be starting points for an immigration bill that would actually begin to deal with the problem. i do think that there should be some exceptions for those seeking political asylum for legitimate reasons, and those cases should be fully vetted.

there are many more questions to answer before we can accept a final immigration bill from this congress, and i hope that they will figure out the right answers to those questions.

related:

Immigration Bill Is Worse Than You Think-human events online
House Negotiator Calls Senate Immigration Bill ‘Amnesty’ and Rejects It –NYT
Senate Immigration Bill Would Allow 100 Million New Legal Immigrants over the Next Twenty Years–heritage
Immigration Deal at Risk as House GOP Looks to Voters–washington post

tags: illegal immigration

**This was a production of The Coalition Against Illegal Immigration(CAII). If you would like to participate, please go to the above link to learn more. Afterwards, email the coalition and let me know at what level you would like to participate.

retire mexico

occasionally i will be cross-posting posts on illegal immigration from other bloggers as part of the coalition against illegal immigration. feel free to comment as usual, but for responses from the original author, i suggest visiting the linked blog. otherwise, read and enjoy.

crossposted from CommonSenseAmerica :

One of the biggest divides in the immigration debate is whether or not to freely gift U.S. citizenship to over 12 million illegal immigrants already in this nation and their family members.

Did all of these people really come to America to become citizens? Or did they come merely to earn a better living and then return home?

We hear from one side of the debate that these people are just here to work and they should be treated with dignity and respect. That’s fine with me. But out of the same mouths we hear that we should allow them to become citizens and thus have access to all of our Federal, State, and local benefits.

If the majority of these people simply come here to work, to send money back home, and to retire in the country of their origin, why is our Senate hell-bent on handing them guaranteed retirement benefits equal to that of American citizens.

The average wage in Mexico is approximately $70 to $100 per week. Our Social Security benefits are near $1,000 per month for even a modest workers income. So, these workers could retire quite nicely in Mexico courtesy of America.

The way I see it is that an illegal immigrant who had no intention of ever becoming an American citizen but wanted to work here for a time and then go home, would be an absolute fool to pass up this offer.

And don’t think that the Mexican government hasn’t thought about this one, folks.

The Washington Post

SALT LAKE CITY, May 24 — Adding a voice from south of the border to the national debate on immigration, Mexican President Vicente Fox is barnstorming the western United States this week, arguing against fencing off the U.S.-Mexico border and asking Americans for “decent treatment of our people.” But the Mexican leader’s most rapturous reception in Utah came in meetings with immigrants from Mexico and other Latin countries. Each time he met with groups of his countrymen, Fox told them that their long-term ties to Mexico will continue while they live and work in the United States.”Even though you are far from Mexico, you are an integral part of Mexico,” Fox said at the rally here on Tuesday. “Over there, we wait for you with open arms.”

There are a couple of fantastic benefits to the Mexican government in this bogus “earned citizenship”, amnesty program. First, of course, is the fact that Mexico now depends on the monies sent home by its citizens as their remittances have become the nations largest source of income for Mexico.Second, Mexico allows its citizens to obtain dual citizenship and calls on their citizens to vote in the interest of Mexico at the polls in America.

Third, Mexico will welcome home, “with open arms”, all of its citizens who wish to bring their Social Security payments from America.

Yes, this amnesty bill is great news and offers fantastic economic and political perks for Mexico and its citizens.

Would someone please remind our Senators that they were elected to protect the economic and political needs of America?

**This was a production of The Coalition Against Illegal Immigration (CAII). If you would like to participate, please go to the above link to learn more. Afterwards, email the coalition and let me know at what level you would like to participate.**

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this is not good

from nro:

The Senate continues to fiddle with the Hagel-Martinez amnesty bill in an effort to make it less odious to supporters of serious immigration enforcement. But one vote in particular has exposed the real priorities of the bipartisan pro-amnesty majority. On Tuesday, 55 senators (including 18 Republicans) voted against an amendment by Senator Isakson of Georgia to delay the start of any legalization program until the border-security measures in the bill “have been fully completed and are fully operational.”

This explicit rejection of Enforcement First removes all doubt: The bill is nothing but a rerun of the 1986 immigration fiasco, which featured amnesty for nearly 3 million illegals in exchange for the hollow promise of future enforcement. The other adjustments the Senate made to the bill don’t change this—not the 370 miles of additional fencing, not the ban on felons’ getting amnesty, not even the scaling back of the guest-worker plan so that “only” 60-some million people would move here over the next two decades instead of the 103 million originally estimated by the Heritage Foundation. Without a requirement that the borders be secured before proceeding with amnesty, there is no justification for supporting this legislation.

the white house can dispute the numbers heritage came up with (and has), but the overall point remains the same: border security must come before any discussion of guest worker programs. what’s so hard to understand about this?

maybe conservatives would be able to trust president bush on this guest-worker provision if we were sure that he was just as committed to securing our borders. there’s not much evidence to suggest that committment exists. sending national guard troops to the border may be a quick fix, but we need to do more than that. it would also help to enforce existing laws, and to tear down bureaucratic roadblocks to border patrol agents who are just trying to do their jobs.

related:

Barrier of suspicion now separates Bush from GOP base–chicago sun-times
Why Enforcing Our Immigration Laws Will Largely Be Irrelevant If The Senate Gets Their Way–RWN

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speechless

you’ve got your reasons
none of them are mine
if that’s the way you want it
go ahead that’s fine

i’ll just get on out of here
i won’t get in your way
if in time it takes you under
well..that’s just the price you pay

but don’t ask me how i feel

–swirling eddies, “don’t ask me how i feel”

i have no words for this immigration speech by president bush. fortunately, many other bloggers are ready to fill that void.

michelle malkin weighs in.

california conservative has some helpful suggestions here and here.

the uncooperative blogger has more posts on illegal immigration. he hosts the coalition against illegal immigration. go to his site for more info and/or to join the cause.

sarahk at imao is unimpressed.
wonkette hosts the unofficial liveblog drinking game during the speech, as per usual.

something to think about:

If there is an honest debate about how many million people will be given a chance to come to America under the Senate bill, we’re told the number is between 30 million and 36 million people. When the average American learns that, they are going to be furious if the Senate Republicans allow that kind of bill out of the Senate. The Senate bill expands substantially who can be brought in as a member of the family. So you take 11 million and add the other people, and we believe the real number is between 30 million and 36 million.

–newt gingrich (h/t RWN)

good luck tony snow. you’re going to have a tough time defending this dog of an immigration policy.

tags: illegal immigration, george w. bush

related stuff i wrote:

simply outrageous
illegals and the rest of us

simply outrageous

i don’t understand this strategy by the US government in dealing with illegal immigration.

from the daily bulletin:

While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen — and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants — and if and when violence is used against border crossers. A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants’ rights are being observed.

so the US government doesn’t want to seriously deal with the illegal immigration issue. not only that, but they are actively helping the mexican government find those who are willing to do something about the problem. michelle malkin has more here(where the DHS labels the report “inaccurate”) and here.

if this is happening on ANY level, it’s wrong. i am finding it hard to accept that those who break our laws to get into this country should have any rights. of course they shouldn’t be abused, but they should be arrested and deported when they are caught. there’s nothing inhumane about enforcing our laws.

there are many areas where i agree with bush 43, but he’s making it harder and harder for me to defend him. i agree with him on social issues, iraq, and on the selection of conservative judges to the supreme court. i can’t defend this. we elected this guy for the most part because of concerns about national security and the GWOT. i think it’s fair to say that his report card is incomplete at this point.

president bush should care just as much as securing the borders of this country in addition to his concern about the security and future of iraq. right now i just don’t see that commitment to this country’s security.

related:

U.S. Border Patrol: Reporting To Mexico? –california conservative

illegals and the rest of us

i’m opposed to illegal immigration. how’s that for analysis? maybe i should elaborate just a bit on that. i don’t think that anyone who is here illegally, whether they are mexican or any other nationality, should be allowed to stay in the country. i’m not sure that there is a simple way to address that problem. it’s clear that we need to make the attempt to enforce current laws as they exist today. however, we have seen that the current system is broken and needs to be fixed. that should be something that both sides should agree on. the disagreement is about what we do to fix the problem.

i find it annoying that people who sneak into our country, break our laws, and continue to flaunt those laws by staying in the country, have the audacity to complain about having no rights. citizens have rights. non-citizens do not. employers in this country are breaking our laws to give those people jobs, and for this concession, they get people walking out to join a protest. yeah…that makes sense to me. if the mexican people should protest about anything, it’s their ineffectual socialist government that keeps them in poverty. if we really want to help mexican citizens, we should start introducing a different economic model for them, not a brand-new guest worker program.

there are laws in place ALREADY that address many of the current problems we are having with illegal immigration, as california conservative points out. we need to start enforcing the laws we already have. making it easier for someone who sneaks into the country to become a citizen seems kind of backward to me. we shouldn’t reward people who break our laws by giving them a shortcut to citizenship, especially because there are people here already who are trying to go through a legal citizenship process.

what message does that send to those who actually want to be citizens of this country? let’s be clear on this. many of these illegals don’t really want to be US citizens. so giving them the option doesn’t really make sense. our priorities are screwed up when talking about this issue. border security should be the top priority as well as enforcing current immigration laws. even if we will never see terrorists cross the border through mexico, it is still important that we know who is coming into our country. then maybe we can entertain all these other suggestions.

related:

we don’t need no stinkin’ reform –california conservative
the intellectual dishonesty of the open borders crowd — right wing nut house

tags: illegal immigration